Day 6 – 21 Jan 2013 (PMS Day 16)
Btw, on 19th Jan (PMS Day 14), we received a text from Dr. A – from total 10 oocytes I got, 2 were immature, 8 were injected and numbers of oocytes down to 5.

On PMS Day 16, we were scheduled to see the embryologist on 10.00 am, we found out that – from total 5 oocytes only 2 can survived. I shocked and my tears started to welling up. I thought I will end up with many embryos. Our embryologist started to comfort us try to explain we actually have a good embryos condition, a semi-compact and a 10 cells embryos.

However, I still feel numb and feel like a total failure…, we ended up having no embryos to freeze.

My 2 embryos transferred lasted for 15 minutes only. This procedure was performed under ultrasound guidance and was no more uncomfortable than a pap smear. My bladder was almost full when the procedure about to get started. They said full bladder provides an acoustic window that allows the doctor to see the uterus more easily.

I didn’t get into so much details about the procedures, but as far as I know once the catheter tip was in place, the embryos were deposited and the catheter was removed. The embryologist then checked the catheter to ensure that the embryos have been released. Sometimes, the embryos could stick inside of the catheter.

After the transfer, I was taken to recovery room to rest for about 30 minutes. Then, a nurse came by and helped me administered Crinone vaginally. Later on, I was transferred to regular patient room to get a bed rest and asked not to mobile until 05.00 pm. I was instructed to take Dydrogesterone (2x a day), Acetosal and  Progesterone Vaginal Gel.

Medication Lists:
Dydrogesterone, Acetosal



Day 5 – 18 Jan 2013 (PMS Day 13)
That night at 10.00 pm on PMS Day 11 which was 48 hrs before egg retrieval operation, I was asked to inject Ovidrel which was 250mg to induce ovulation.

Pre-OPU, we faced a scene as Jakarta floods due monsoon soaks, heavy rains bring this capital to a standstill. The hospital remained open but the access roads leading to it were reportedly blocked. The traffic was brought to a near standstill by waist-high floodwaters, and overflowing with cars. By midnight when we heard the access road to hospital down to knee-high floodwaters, DH packed up and took me to the hospital where I was admitted to ICU then transferred to regular patient ward.

Home truths about ovum pick up…

Before operation, the nurse gave me a surgical gown to wear, I was asked to change my clothes and shown to a bed and a cannula ( fine plastic tube) was inserted into my vein in the back of my hand. It was used to make me feel sleepy and sedated throughout the procedure. Once I got into the OR, Dr. I already inside the room. The room was freezing. It was medium and white. I was instructed to lie on the operating table. Later, they tied each of my arms to the boards. They also slapped sticky heart monitors onto my chest and plugged them in.  An assistant came by and did a complete medical history on me. Another anesthesiologist asked me not to worry and started to sedate me via cannula inserted in my vein before. That’s the last thing I remember.

An hour later, I have been taken down to recovery room to rest and DH was eventually brought back to see me. I found myself given oxygen throughout the procedure via two short plastic tubes that sit at the base of my nostrils. DH told me that out of 15 follicles retrieved, 5 were empty so I got 10 oocytes in total.

I was prescribed with Cefixime 200mg taken once a day and Asam Mefenamat 500mg 3x a day with no end date provided. After having lunch about an hour and so in recovery ward, I was released home.

Post–OPU, I bounced back fairly quickly. I was pretty much feeling completely normal.

Medication Lists:
Ovidrel 250mg, Cefixime 200 mg, Asam Mefenamat 500mg



Day 4 – 15 Jan 2013 (PMS Day 10)
PMS Day 10 – 4th consultation, another ultrasound and blood test, my follicles’ sizes are growing. Some of them have reached 17mm and the smallest at 10mm. Dr. I hopes the 10mm follicle would catch up. He prescribed me with Gonal-F at 150IU. So, in total, I had 9 days of 2 Gonal-F pen at 900 IU each dosage and additional 150 IU Gonal-F.

Dr. I explained Ovum Pick Up will be executed as scheduled on 18th Jan. He ordered us to go for another blood test on PMS Day 11 in the morning and Ovidrel injection at night around 09.45 pm also a total rest on PMS Day 12 plus fasting 6 hrs pre-OPU.

Medication Lists:
FSH (Follicle Stimulating Hormone) is used in IVF cycles to stimulate your ovaries to produce multiple mature eggs. FSH is taken as subcutaneous injections daily. Ie. Gonal-F  2 x 75 IU



Sharing some insight about estradiol levels. 


Estradiol: What It Is and What It Tells Us.

The level of estradiol is measured in almost every blood sample taken during the monitoring of almost every type of assisted pregnancy. It is arguably the most informative of the three tests. Because of this, we will spend more time and space on estradiol. Don't worry-- the other two won't be nearly as long.

Estradiol is a hormone that stimulates the lining of the uterus, causing the lining to grow, and to make itself ready for embryo arrival. (This is not estradiol's only function, but for us, it's the important one). Estradiol is tied into pregnancy by it's method of production: oocytes (eggs) contain follicles. These developing follicles contain 'granulosa cells'. These granulosa cells synthesize the estradiol and release it into the blood circulation. 

This means that more follicles produce more estradiol. This helps measure how many follicles are actively developing. The longer they continue to develop, the longer the estradiol level continues. As they develop, the level continues to rise. This rise can further indicate that the oocyte within the follicles is reaching its maturity.

An example of the use of estradiol level is when it is measured during down-regulation cycles. In down-regulation we expect low levels of estradiol: below 30pg/ml. If levels are not this low, this suggests that the ovaries are not yet suppressed, and that the down-regulation should continue a little longer, until they actually are suppressed.

Estradiol And Ultrasound Scans
Blood estradiol is also used in combination with ultrasound scans. Taken together they help indicate how (and if) the ovaries are responding to stimulation. Is there a response? Is it adequate? Is it excessive? To tell us this, the blood level has to be viewed in relation to the stage of pregnancy and the day in the cycle in which the level is being taken. 

For example, a level of 1500 pg/ml on day eleven might be considered acceptable in a stimulated cycle, as reflecting the presence of a reasonable number of mature follicles. However, if this level were present on day eight, it would be considered unacceptably high. It would almost certainly reflect the presence of an excess of follicles. At this stage (day eight) they would still be Immature ones. Their quantity, however, would suggest that continued stimulation would carry an unacceptable risk of developing OHSS-- ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome. 

Don't Expect Easy Comparison
Before we continue, one important point: levels of estradiol are not the same from person to person. They cannot simply be compared from one to another. People vary-- everyone is slightly different, and everyone responds to a different degree. Some more so than others. A level that is dangerously high in one person-- or dangerously low in a second-- might be normal and healthy for a third. This is why blood levels can't just simply be compared. It's also why blood levels can't always be interpreted with complete certainty in the first cycles. Without prior cycles to 'calibrate' the levels, the meaning of a level can only be determined as to what it usually means-- what it 'probably', or perhaps even 'almost certainly' means. 

Despite individual variation, estradiol level does provide very useful information.

A Rough Rule-of-Thumb for Good Estradiol Levels.
Exact figures are not possible. As a rough guide, however, a level in the range of 150 to 500 pg/ml is generally considered reasonable for the eighth day of a stimulated cycle. An approximate doubling of this level every 48 hours is considered promising, as a sign of continued good follicle development.

When the Estradiol Level Stays Flat or Begins to Fall.
Occasionally, the level of estradiol fails to rise during a cycle, or even falls. If this happens it strongly suggests that the follicles are not responding appropriately, and that the oocytes within will not be of good quality. Under these circumstances our advice is almost invariably to cancel the cycle, because a change in stimulation protocol may yield more oocytes-- and healthier ones-- in a later attempt.

Low Estradiol Not Always a Problem
A more common situation is when the level is low in the early part of the cycle. The choice then is to either carry on with the same amount of stimulation, to increase the amount of stimulation, or to cancel the cycle. This decision has to be based on a number of factors. These include:
the previous response to stimulation chronological age how low the level is
the ultrasound appearance of the ovaries is there a pressing need to ensure that an optimal number of oocytes are obtained, as in the case for couples with male factor infertility?

How It All Comes Together with Estradiol.
It should be clear from all of the above that estradiol levels do not tell the entire story by themselves. One level leads us to advise a couple to cancel. The same level in another couple leads us to suggest continuing. 

We've already discussed levels that are low. When levels are high, we have the same choice: change the stimulation (reduce it), or cancel the cycle. The criteria to consider are the same as for low levels. The one additional factor is that with high levels we also think carefully about OHSS (ovarian hyper-stimulation syndrome). When assessing the risk of OHSS we look to previous cycles, if there are any. Any suggestions from these cycles of OHSS problems would quite definitely weigh heavily towards cancelling the cycle.

When the decision is to proceed, levels of estradiol continue to be monitored. If they continue to exceed acceptable levels, even with reduction in stimulation, we might reassess the cycle, and once again advise cancelling. If however they do return to normal levels, then the cycle will continue.

What is the limit of acceptable estradiol level? Acceptable levels vary-- it's not possible to give a definite, absolute number. However, any level of 4000 pg/ml or above does require careful consideration. Levels that are much in excess of this usually do lead to cancellation, though not always.

What about the lower limit? This too involves many factors. However, if the estradiol level has not reached a minimum of 600pg/L (**** beth-- should this be per liter, or per ml?***), then our usual policy is to discontinue the cycle. In practice we usually don't proceed unless the ultrasound shows three or more mature follicles. Since estradiol levels and the total number of follicles are related (as discussed in the beginning of this essay), this by itself eliminates most of the possibility for levels at or below this lower limit. Three or more mature follicles will, under most circumstances, secrete enough estradiol by themselves to give a level in excess of this minimum. 

Do bear in mind that the above are only a rough, rule-of-thumb guides, however. They can and do vary depending on individual circumstance.

Luteinizing Hormone, or "LH": What Is It and What Does It Do?
Before the introduction and widespread use of drugs such as Lupron, assessment of luteinizing hormone was at least as important, if not
more important, than estradiol levels. It remains an important test for anyone undergoing any cycle where Lupron or Synarel (GnRH agonist) is not being used. This is because, without Lupron, an early unwanted LH surge may occur.

LH Surges (note: the next entry implies that an LH surge is desirable, and necessary. This entry implies that it isn't. How do the two reconcile? is early=bad, but near end=necessary?)

A surge in the level of LH may cause undesirable changes in egg quality, or cause early egg release. Both of these decrease the chance of pregnancy. Regimens such as Clomid, Clomid/Pergonal cycles, or "straight" Pergonal, Metrodin or Humegon cycles all must include urine LH testing (for instance, Ovuquick, or ClearPlan Easy). If a sudden rise in the level of LH is detected (often termed "an LH surge"), this indicates that the process leading to ovulation and release of the oocyte has begun. It is this process that is blocked, in the vast majority of cases, by the use of Lupron. Unfortunately, there is no way of knowing when a rise in the level of LH actually begins, except for testing blood or urine every three to four hours. This makes it virtually impossible to accurately time egg retrieval. This timing is necessary to be certain that the oocytes are mature. Because of this problem, the cycle is usually canceled if an LH surge is detected.




Day 3 – 14 Jan 2013 (PMS Day 9)
Our 3rd consultation was on day 9. Again I had another ultrasound to check the follicles. After being scanned, I had 12 follicles with the largest at 16mm and the smallest at 10 mm, still low on left ovaries but acceptable.

My blood test was within normal range, E2= 2,274 and P4= 0,57. I was ordered to inject Gonal-F and Cetrotide again for one more day. Dr. I re-ordered a blood test and asked for another ultrasound tomorrow morning on PMS Day 10.

Reading Lists:
E2 Levels



Day 2 – 11th Jan 2013 (PMS Day 6)
Our 2nd consultation was on PMS Day 6, I had my internal ultrasound again to check how many follicles I have naturally (I got 6 on the left and 6 on the right). Sizes were varied from 14mm – 7mm.
After being stimulated with 225 IU Gonal-F for 4 days, my E2 levels were 1,514 and P4 = 0,52. I am wondering if these numbers are promising result for IVF?

They are having me inject 225 IU Gonal-F again and Cetrotide for another 3 days ahead, also ordered a blood test and ultrasound on PMS Day 9. Cross my fingers, hopefully they are big enough tomorrow to trigger.

Medication Lists:
Cetrorelix Acetate (Cetrotide) is the first and only gonadotropin releasing hormone antagonist that offers dosing simplicity and flexibility. It is injected subcutaneously (just under the skin). Cetrotide is available in a 3mg single dose regimen and a 0.25mg daily dose given on stimulation day five or seven, depending the strength. Cetrotide helps control your body’s hormonal responses, which affect the development of eggs. Specifically, Cetrotides helps delay a hormonal event know as the LH surge. The LH Surge is caused by a series of changes involving two hormones – gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) and luteinizing hormone (LH). When GnRH is present, it triggers a dramatic rise, or surge in LH levels. However, if an LH surge occurs too early in a cycle, your eggs will be released before they are expected. Cetrotides works by directly blocking the trigger effect on GnRH. This blocking action stops the premature LH surge in women undergoing controlled ovarian stimulation before they begin. In doing so, this allows eggs to reach the level of development needed for fertilization.

 FSH (Follicle Stimulating Hormone) is used in IVF cycles to stimulate your ovaries to produce multiple mature eggs. FSH is taken as subcutaneous injections daily. Ie. Gonal-F Pen 900 IU




Hi! We have been married for 4+ years. For the first 2 years of our marriage, we were busy living life, we got a chance to explore all facets of childfree living. And when another year went by and pregnancy just didn’t happen. We take the time to discuss further, and by the time we felt any semblance of ‘baby-lust’, I was almost 36 years old. However, after try to conceive naturally for 4 years with much frustration on my monthly routine PMS, we finally decided to opt for IVF.

Hence, I’d like share my IVF experience as I have received much support and encouragement from reading posts on internet. I sincerely hope everyone who is going through IVF will get her success with healthy baby born on their 1st cycle. 

Where to go for IVF?

After giving so much thought, consideration and research (online/ offline), we decided to go to Dr. Ivan of Morula IVF Jakarta, as we considered ‘not the nearest’ but at least the most reliable and reputable clinic in Jakarta. In this blog, we most likely to pen name him as Dr. I, the guru of IVF. Dr Ivan suggested we could try a few cycles of IUI and then move on to IVF. However, I don’t have much patience and decided to try IVF straight away.

Day 1 – 7th Jan 2013 (PMS Day 2)
By the time we have our initial consultation booked today, we had been ordered by Dr. Augustine (Communication Team) to go through a battery of screening tests such as endocrinology, hematology, chemist, and immuno-serological tests. So we just had to bring along all our previous records which results were all within average.

At this initial consultation, I only needed to have an internal ultrasound to check the location of ovaries and count number of follicles which end up about 11 follicles. After getting the base figures, I was given a start dosage of 225 IU of Gonal-F injection for 4 days. Dr. I explained and prescribed my medication lists on daily basis and scheduled Ovum Pick Up on 17th or 18th Jan if everything is right on the track.
Talking about daily injection, we agreed to ask the nurse to give me a sample shot for the 1st time as we are unable to commute back and forth everyday for a shot. I hoped DH would be able to give me a majority of my shots for the next days. Fortunately, he managed to do that and we both actually got over our fears. Dr. I asked us to go for a blood test and internal ultrasound on PMS day 6.

Medication Lists:
FSH (Follicle Stimulating Hormone) is used in IVF cycles to stimulate your ovaries to produce multiple mature eggs. FSH is taken as subcutaneous injections daily. Ie. Gonal-F Pen 900 IU, Instruction To Inject Gonal-F